tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2782551808324372235.post8273325297160901758..comments2024-03-12T10:20:01.684+02:00Comments on Coffee and Chemo: Shabbat Preparations -- Involving ALL the ChildrenRivkA with a capital Ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09411034058195730044noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2782551808324372235.post-8560001100311467832008-11-03T14:20:00.000+02:002008-11-03T14:20:00.000+02:00SquarePed613 -- the child in question often does h...SquarePed613 -- the child in question often does have an idea of what punishment would fit the crime (sometimes, when this child was little, the ideas were significantly more draconian than my ideas). <BR/><BR/>ALN -- What is the "Five-Minute Bedtime Challenge"??<BR/><BR/>Na'amah -- that was similar to what we had, except no one wanted to do the floors and everyone wanted to do the bathrooms! (Go figure!)RivkA with a capital Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411034058195730044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2782551808324372235.post-28453487164111711862008-11-02T21:24:00.000+02:002008-11-02T21:24:00.000+02:00We have an 'erev shabbat help list' which a child ...We have an 'erev shabbat help list' which a child prints out on the computer. It lists all the regular jobs which need to be done and has space to add a few others. The children 'sign up' for the jobs and put a check when they are done. While they almost always sign up for the same jobs, experience has found that they like to sign up for them and not 'be assigned' them.<BR/><BR/>Bahatzlachah!<BR/><BR/>Na'amahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2782551808324372235.post-81645005288060369932008-11-02T18:25:00.000+02:002008-11-02T18:25:00.000+02:00What about the Five-Minute Bedtime Challenge, modi...What about the Five-Minute Bedtime Challenge, modified for Shabbat-prep activities, when time is also of the essence? You could set up a timeline (in advance) with the tasks that need finishing, and the estimated amount of time needed to finish them. It would also take an advanced conversation, but I think any method would, to be really effective, since it's a long-term habit-changing thing. Good luck.A Living Nadneydahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14365370597831368062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2782551808324372235.post-5301253723859982722008-11-02T08:47:00.000+02:002008-11-02T08:47:00.000+02:00Perhaps the child in question has an idea of what ...Perhaps the child in question has an idea of what punishment *would* fit the crime?Ilanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13870568775480176690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2782551808324372235.post-88806080067280474122008-11-01T23:55:00.000+02:002008-11-01T23:55:00.000+02:00Anon -- I like your suggestion to talk with the ch...Anon -- I like your suggestion to talk with the child in advance. It can only help.RivkA with a capital Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411034058195730044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2782551808324372235.post-22933408487567677822008-11-01T23:48:00.000+02:002008-11-01T23:48:00.000+02:00It's the staying calm that is most challenging for...It's the staying calm that is most challenging for me.<BR/><BR/>It is also hard not to be angry when meting out "consequences." <BR/><BR/>Usually, the consequences for not helping nicely are "no sweet drinks." I am not a fan of sugar drinks to begin with. So, I am certainly not about to take a kid who has a hard time behaving nicely and pump that kid full of sugar! <BR/><BR/>The kid in question does not really see the connection, and thinks the punishment does not fit the crime.RivkA with a capital Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411034058195730044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2782551808324372235.post-57357364069136129442008-11-01T20:09:00.000+02:002008-11-01T20:09:00.000+02:00Dear RivkAbeen there done it.....here is what work...Dear RivkA<BR/>been there done it.....<BR/>here is what worked for us:<BR/>try talking to the child during the week about it, not in "real time", when everyone is not calm. tell him something like: i need your help on erev Shabbat. I need you to be part of the preperations for Shabbat. I don`t like to have to ask for your help over and over again. that makes me angry, and i don't like to be angry. <BR/>no discussion, just letting the child know very clearly what your needs are in that situation, and let him know how you feel about it. <BR/>and on friday, i would ask only once for the help. if it does not work, there have to be consequences to the behaviour. maybe something like, during the meal, only those who helped prepare for shabbat, can eat with us or so.No anger though. But you really have to see, what works for you.<BR/>Good luckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com